ANDY RISS´S WINS IN THE STEP BY STEP PROGRAM Options

[Andy]

Dear all,

my name is Andy Riss, German PGA Professional. I´m connected with the CROKERGOLFSYSTEM since 1999.

In the last 10 years I visited Peter´s schools when he was in Germany and I took many private lessons too.
In 2004 and 2007 I spent four weeks in his Masterschools in Cape Schank and The Dunes. In the time between the schools and in the winter I studied the 10 Lesson Video Tapes and the Module 2 DVD.

The quality of my teaching and my own game improved a lot. I got many successtories from my students.

The STEP BY STEP ONLINE PROGRAM is a huge help for my teaching and my own game too.
The VIDEODOWNLOADS in combination with the ONLINE TESTS helps the students for better understanding.

This is the way a real Golfschool should work. Understanding and learning the basics for the miniature swing to the fullswing by videodownloads followed by tests is a very effective way for all levels of golfer.

In February 2008 I visit Peter again at the Dunes. The Step by Step Online Program is a perfect way for me for preparation.

My wins:

Step 1- Grip:

When I push with my Press#1 from the right hand (upper part of live line) against Press#1 in the left hand ( second knuckle joint of the thumb) in the correct way and the right hand is exactly placed right of the clubgrip ( PARALLEL right behind, right wrist is VERTICAL), the right ellbow is in a perfect position for the start of a correct backswing.

Step 2- Stance:

When I stand more upright, my hands hang down in a NEUTRAL position. This helps me for a correct start in the takeaway. I was to cramped, so my hands were in a uncocked position. I had problems in starting the backswing.

Step 3- Impact:

At impact the weight is firmly planted in BOTH feet. This leads to a more solid impact.
I lifted my right heel. So my shoulders were not exactly parallel to the target line at the impact.

Step 4- Chip Stance:

The correct kneeflex will have a vertical line down from the knees finishing at ABOUT THE TOP OF THE BALLS of the feet. My kneesflex was to extrem.

Step 5- Chip Pivot:

In the FORWARD PRESS the center of rotation is the RIGHT HIP and LEG. During my Forward Press I got a little bit out of center. So my shoulders opened instead of remaining parallel to the target line.


Andy

[croker]

Dear all,

my name is Andy Riss, German PGA Professional. I´m connected with the CROKERGOLFSYSTEM since 1999.

In the last 10 years I visited Peter´s schools when he was in Germany and I took many private lessons too.
In 2004 and 2007 I spent four weeks in his Masterschools in Cape Schank and The Dunes. In the time between the schools and in the winter I studied the 10 Lesson Video Tapes and the Module 2 DVD.

The quality of my teaching and my own game improved a lot. I got many successtories from my students.

The STEP BY STEP ONLINE PROGRAM is a huge help for my teaching and my own game too.
The VIDEODOWNLOADS in combination with the ONLINE TESTS helps the students for better understanding.

This is the way a real Golfschool should work. Understanding and learning the basics for the miniature swing to the fullswing by videodownloads followed by tests is a very effective way for all levels of golfer.

In February 2008 I visit Peter again at the Dunes. The Step by Step Online Program is a perfect way for me for preparation.

My wins:

Step 1- Grip:

When I push with my Press#1 from the right hand (upper part of live line) against Press#1 in the left hand ( second knuckle joint of the thumb) in the correct way and the right hand is exactly placed right of the clubgrip ( PARALLEL right behind, right wrist is VERTICAL), the right ellbow is in a perfect position for the start of a correct backswing.

Step 2- Stance:

When I stand more upright, my hands hang down in a NEUTRAL position. This helps me for a correct start in the takeaway. I was to cramped, so my hands were in a uncocked position. I had problems in starting the backswing.

Step 3- Impact:

At impact the weight is firmly planted in BOTH feet. This leads to a more solid impact.
I lifted my right heel. So my shoulders were not exactly parallel to the target line at the impact.

Step 4- Chip Stance:

The correct kneeflex will have a vertical line down from the knees finishing at ABOUT THE TOP OF THE BALLS of the feet. My kneesflex was to extrem.

Step 5- Chip Pivot:

In the FORWARD PRESS the center of rotation is the RIGHT HIP and LEG. During my Forward Press I got a little bit out of center. So my shoulders opened instead of remaining parallel to the target line.
Andy

Dear Andy,

As always you are a great student - even at long distance you can extract the simple answers to take you to a higher level of play.

I am very happy that you are taking the Step by Step program as it works extremely well for those thinking golfers who are looking for their next plateau of achievement.

Kindest regards,

Peter

PS: You will gain much from your next steps!!

[Andy]

Dear all,

I share with you my wins from the next step.

Step 6 : FORWARD PRESS

I improved my pushing ( PRESS#1 of the right hand - upper life line against PRESS#1 of the left hand - the second knuckle joint )

This causes that my left upper arm is better connected to the upper body and the right arm is more bent - better structure of the elbows.

The right hip and leg is now working better as a center while the left hip is turning to the left .

The shoulders now remain parallel to the target line.

Andy

[Andy]

Dear all,

my wins in the TAKEAWAY

STEP 7

I also improved my pushing - PRESS#1 from the left hand against PRESS #1 from the right hand.

Now my right hand is flat at the end of the Takeaway instead of arched.

This caused, that my right elbow moved in a position where my downswing then came more from out. The result often was a "CHICKEN WING" and a bent left hand in the impact

It also stopped turning my right hip.

Andy

[Andy]

Dear all,

my win in Step 8 - Downswing:

My biggest win was, that in the change from backswing to downswing the right hand and arm rotates under.

I wasn´t uncocking in the correct way. So the right hand and arm could not rotate under.
My right elbow came more in a outward position ( like a "Chicken Wing" ) instead in a bent position in front of the body.

This caused not solid impacts.

Andy

[Andy]

Dear all,

my wins in the Step IMPACT/ RELEASE

Step 9

I now realized, that in the beginning of the IMPACT the wrists are still neutral.
During the impact in the IMPACT-ZONE , now the wrists are uncocking and not in the moment of impact.

My next win is the importance of PRESS#2 ( palm of the left hand pushes against the club grip ) - which causes the rotation of the clubface and the left hand release with the support of the correct pushing the PRESSURE POINTS#1 against each other.

Andy

[Andy]

Dear all,

miniature chip shots increasing the distance step by step help me for building up feel and also in fine tuning the technique.

But it also a great way for starting the warming up when you play on the golf course later.
Till last season I started my warming up with 30 yards pitch-shots. Now I realized, that this way did´t really build up my feel for the short and the long game.

20 years ago in an international tournament, I watched the later winner warming up this way and I was astonished that it took about 10 minutes building up the swing step by step without hitting a ball. I thought this was his individual way, but now I do it nearly the same way with very good results.

Andy

[croker]

Dear all,

miniature chip shots increasing the distance step by step help me for building up feel and also in finetuning the technik.

But it also a great way for starting the warming up when you play on the golfcourse later.
Til last season I started my warming up with 30 yards pitch-shots. Now I realised, that this way did´t really build up my feel for the short and the long game.

20 years ago in an international tournament, I watched the later winner warming up this way and I was astonished that it took about 10 minutes building up the swing step by step without hitting a ball. I thought this was his individual way, but now I do it nearly the same way with very good results.

Andy

Dear Andy,

Very well done on getting through all 10 Steps in less than 10 days and having such great wins at each step. I now recommend you move on to LEVEL TWO (3 Steps) and follow it up with LEVEL THREE (2 Steps)

After this please review all 15 steps and see how much simpler golf seems to be on the second run through. I know that with this thorough approach, you will be winning more Pro Tournaments and also a better teacher of the Croker Golf System.

Kind regards,

Peter

[Karl Richter]

Dear Andy,

(for explanation, I am a student of Andy) I think it is a great advantage, that after we both studied the whole Step by Step program, you can better teach me, because we have the same base of facts and know about what we are speaking.

I am eager to meet you soon, because I want you to check what I learned from the program. The difficulty is, that I can not see my swing myself and I know from experience, that often what I am thinking I am doing, is different from what I am really doing.

Only after finishing the program I realized fully, that chip, pitch and full swing as teached in the program are not different swings, but the same swing in growing stages of development from mini swing to full swing. The advantage is, that you have to learn only one swing pattern, not a number of different patterns. Nevertheless you can easily modify them into a punch or lob for instance.

Being aware now of the importance of the basics, I started to go through the whole program from the very beginning again. At first, I thought I could pick out only the more "important" steps, but soon found, that all steps are eaqually important, because every step is based on the foregoing steps. You cannot start with the Pitch. It would be like starting to build a house beginning with the second floor.

What I just described is the very problem what in my opinion every golf teacher faces. Students are coming and want him to increase the length of their drives, but refuse even to change their grip. The result will be imperfect. I am convinced the combination I have fortunately found in having a teacher who exactly knows on what basic knowladge he can build up a sound swing is ideal, especially if it is a teacher, who always treated his student as a partner in a task which can only be solved together.

Enjoy yor stay in Australia and learn as much as possible from Peter, who shares generously his "secret" with us.
(We go skiing for one week to Obermaiselstein)

we miss you

Karl

[ldeitrick]

Dear Andy,

I've been away from the computer for about a month.

I enjoyed reading your wins and the explanations.

Keep them coming,

Lee Deitrick

[Andy]

Dear Andy,

I've been away from the computer for about a month.

I enjoyed reading your wins and the explanations.

Keep them coming,

Lee Deitrick

Dear Lee,

Thank you for your interest in my posts.
I believe that you were the teacher who asked the most questions of Peter up until I came along!
I am interested to see your posts in regards the Step by Step program.
Have you done any of the Steps?
I have now completed both LEVELS 2 and 3 and it has been the most revealing golf instruction I have ever come across.
Karl Richter and I find the Croker Golf System easy to understand, especially now it is presented in the correct sequence and with such detail at each step.
I will report on my next steps very soon.

Andy

[alrenz]

Dear Andy,

I've been away from the computer for about a month.

I enjoyed reading your wins and the explanations.

Keep them coming,

Lee Deitrick

I agree with Lee 100%. I enjoy the posts, that give some information. Rhys has posted his travels and I have found them informative. I thought Chris Beckett was going to do the same but have not seen anything since the first post some time ago, obviously its his choice. Way too many of the answers on this forum get the answer," go to the next step for further understanding", which is no answer at all.

Allan Renz

[AndyR]

I agree with Lee 100%. I enjoy the posts, that give some information. Rhys has posted his travels and I have found them informative. I thought Chris Beckett was going to do the same but have not seen anything since the first post some time ago, obviously its his choice. Way too many of the answers on this forum get the answer," go to the next step for further understanding", which is no answer at all.

Allan Renz

Hi Allan,
I am a Golf Professional now based in Australia, I played as an amateur for England turned Pro and played European challenge tour. More recently I have been playing here in Australia and was Victorian Club Pro Champion 2 years ago.
I cant agree with your comment that to answer someone by telling them to move to the next step is not an answer.
this is a step by step program that i believe is the most informative and well laid out golf program have ever been involved with and I have found that moving onto the next step has answered my questions just as Peter suggested. maybe you should complete the steps yourself and you will be enlightened.

Yours,
Andy Rogers

[alrenz]

Hi Allan,
I am a Golf Professional now based in Australia, I played as an amateur for England turned Pro and played European challenge tour. More recently I have been playing here in Australia and was Victorian Club Pro Champion 2 years ago.
I cant agree with your comment that to answer someone by telling them to move to the next step is not an answer.
this is a step by step program that i believe is the most informative and well laid out golf program have ever been involved with and I have found that moving onto the next step has answered my questions just as Peter suggested. maybe you should complete the steps yourself and you will be enlightened.

Yours,
Andy Rogers

I did not realize that the forum was only for those on the step by step program. It was not that way in the past, but if it is now so be it. I'll look elsewhere for information. Lynn Blake and Brian Manzella are active participants on their forums, with answers. Good Luck

Allan Renz

[Andy]

I did not realize that the forum was only for those on the step by step program. It was not that way in the past, but if it is now so be it. I'll look elsewhere for information. Lynn Blake and Brian Manzella are active participants on their forums, with answers. Good Luck

Allan Renz

Dear Allan,

It sounds like you have some connection to Germany by your surname. Just like me you want precise answers.
The difference it seems is that I am prepared to exchange for the information I need and want. You want to get it for free.
Peter Croker certainly has valuable information for all golfers, especially golf instructors. He has answered me with the best possible answers and as you have seen, I already have gained much from the Step by Step program. The video downloads are so much clearer to understand than just some words on a page. This is powerful stuff!
It is a pity that you do not want to invest your energies and some money into really getting to know this Step by Step program for yourself.
This Section of the Forum is focused on The Step by Step program. If you want other topics to be discussed, why not ask constructive questions in those other Sections? You might get the answers you are after?
Meanwhile good luck with those other sites, for me the best information is to be found here.

Andy

[alrenz]

Dear Allan,

It sounds like you have some connection to Germany by your surname. Just like me you want precise answers.
The difference it seems is that I am prepared to exchange for the information I need and want. You want to get it for free.
Peter Croker certainly has valuable information for all golfers, especially golf instructors. He has answered me with the best possible answers and as you have seen, I already have gained much from the Step by Step program. The video downloads are so much clearer to understand than just some words on a page. This is powerful stuff!
It is a pity that you do not want to invest your energies and some money into really getting to know this Step by Step program for yourself.
This Section of the Forum is focused on The Step by Step program. If you want other topics to be discussed, why not ask constructive questions in those other Sections? You might get the answers you are after?
Meanwhile good luck with those other sites, for me the best information is to be found here.

Andy

1. Stand corrected, it is a Step by Step section on the forum. I was wrong. But if you look at other sections my comment stands. You are a golf pro so your knowledge is superior to regular students, they might have questions that can't wait till the next section. Might even keep them from the 100% correct score needed to proceed.
2. I'm 100% American, not responsible for my parents lineage.
3. When I studied with Peter in Clearwater, Florida I paid $10000 for the priveledge, so your comment on getting something for free is off base. (At some point might do the program, too busy teaching at present)

Good luck

Allan

[frenchy]

1. Stand corrected, it is a Step by Step section on the forum. I was wrong. But if you look at other sections my comment stands. You are a golf pro so your knowledge is superior to regular students, they might have questions that can't wait till the next section. Might even keep them from the 100% correct score needed to proceed.
2. I'm 100% American, not responsible for my parents lineage.
3. When I studied with Peter in Clearwater, Florida I paid $10000 for the priveledge, so your comment on getting something for free is off base. (At some point might do the program, too busy teaching at present)

Good luck

Allan

Allan

One hour a day say for a fortnight a man of your know ledge should be able to do the first ten steps easy.
and for what may be a great enlightenment for you and your students,
It may be after all the answer to all those questions
After all the questions are being answered with the most appropriate answer.
If the teacher says to go read the book. you read the book
The time you spend gleaning a piece here and a piece there can be far better spent following one program thoroughly.
All about a time and motion study on two counts?
You will never never now if you don't give it a go!
Frenchy

[AnkeC]

1. Stand corrected, it is a Step by Step section on the forum. I was wrong. But if you look at other sections my comment stands. You are a golf pro so your knowledge is superior to regular students, they might have questions that can't wait till the next section. Might even keep them from the 100% correct score needed to proceed.
2. I'm 100% American, not responsible for my parents lineage.
3. When I studied with Peter in Clearwater, Florida I paid $10000 for the priveledge, so your comment on getting something for free is off base. (At some point might do the program, too busy teaching at present)

Good luck

Allan

Hi Allan, I hear that you have been the No. 1 Teacher at Chelsea Piers for the last 8 years, that is a great accomplishment. Just wondering if Peter's training back then had something to do with it. You got a lot of training then, plus your 3 month's free accommodation, so 10K well spent, don't you think?

Andy Riss has understood the significance of the very detailed Step-by-Step program, and I have seen him during his current training with Peter, and he is making tremendous progress and is having one win after another, and all this after being a pro for over 20 years...

Both can only earn my highest respect - Andy for having the gutts to put himself through it and never having stopped to be keen on learning, and Peter for having the ability to bring a person through the different training steps and improving their game immediately, no matter what level they are at!

I am currently catching up on Peter's latest training and it has given me the ability to correct myself to a good degree, and that as just a "regular" golfer, not a pro. I am working 50-60 hours a week, which does not give me much time to head out on the golf course or driving range, but with the online Step-By-Step program, I can still keep up and do stuff at home. Having not played at all for a number of years, I was not able to use my driver anymore and by attending just a 2 hours clinic (!), it immediately improved my game and I was able to use the driver again in my next game - just by following those little steps that seem so unimportant to you. It fills the gaps and to me, learning it all over again and in such detail is simply the best method for anyone - pro or not.

Cheers,
Anke

[Andy]

Dear Allan,

It sounds like you have some connection to Germany by your surname. Just like me you want precise answers.
The difference it seems is that I am prepared to exchange for the information I need and want. You want to get it for free.
Peter Croker certainly has valuable information for all golfers, especially golf instructors. He has answered me with the best possible answers and as you have seen, I already have gained much from the Step by Step program. The video downloads are so much clearer to understand than just some words on a page. This is powerful stuff!
It is a pity that you do not want to invest your energies and some money into really getting to know this Step by Step program for yourself.
This Section of the Forum is focused on The Step by Step program. If you want other topics to be discussed, why not ask constructive questions in those other Sections? You might get the answers you are after?
Meanwhile good luck with those other sites, for me the best information is to be found here.

Andy

Dear All,

I am now ready to share my wins on Step 1 of Level Two.

I must say that without the very detailed steps of Level one, I would not have appreciated the value of the how much Peter Croker has aligned the correct mechanics of the golf swing to build a solid and repeatable golf swing that can compress the ball and control both distance and direction.
Step 1 here helped me gain a better impact/follow through and balanced finish. My right foot always was a problem and I could never finish with what I believed the correct finish position of the feet and legs.

This step was perfect in teaching me the correct follow through and finish as a coordinated movement of body, legs, feet, arms, hands and club.
The pitch shot can now be controlled through the ball under high pressure levels.

Andy

[Andy]

Dear All,

I am now ready to share my wins on Step 1 of Level Two.

I must say that without the very detailed steps of Level one, I would not have appreciated the value of the how much Peter Croker has aligned the correct mechanics of the golf swing to build a solid and repeatable golf swing that can compress the ball and control both distance and direction.
Step 1 here helped me gain a better impact/follow through and balanced finish. My right foot always was a problem and I could never finish with what I believed the correct finish position of the feet and legs.

This step was perfect in teaching me the correct follow through and finish as a coordinated movement of body, legs, feet, arms, hands and club.
The pitch shot can now be controlled through the ball under high pressure levels.

Andy

Dear all,

my wins on Step 1 of Level Two more in detail:

In the past I tried to stay "connected" with the upper part of my left arm during the follow through, but the
most time I had a slight "CHICKEN WING". Also with my hips I didn´t make a complete rotation into a nice balanced finish.

Especially in the drill parts of Peter´s "chip pitch downloads" you exactly can see how to cause to happen a correct follow through.

With the PRESS#2 of the left hand PUSHING "BACK" and ROTATING IN, while pushing with the right hand PRESS#1 ( upper part of the live line + right palm ) against the PRESS#1 of the left hand ( inside of the second knuckle joint of the left hand ) and thumbs pushing down, releases the left hip and left shoulder through the ball.

The right hand remains bend through the follow through + is "PUSHING OVER" ( inside of the right hand shows to the ground ).

It´s a great experience how much the pivot and the left upper arm connection is affected by the correct use of the hands.

If you have a swivel disc at home like me, it´s a fun to drill this also without a club. You immediately get a quick feedback whether you use your hands correctly.
When the discs keep turning ,you use your hands correct, when they stop, you should study the video downloads again.

Andy